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	<description>Simon Jones is looking for clues.</description>
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		<title>By: Skye</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Skye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really are looking for God you will find Him,  He is kind merciful, gracious and the God I know has changed my life. I also know that if you really do have questions that you want answers to He will answer those too.  If you genuinely do give your life to Him He will change it forever.  The night in India is interesting because the thing that God blesses is faith and maybe just maybe He is looking for that Faith in you to keep coming, Asking, seeking and knocking.  As for your reasons for seeking Him they will be the very thing that God uses to change and strengthen you.  In my experience God is the God who really answers by fire as He did with Elijah and He will not be mocked He will answer you and fulfill all the promises He has ever spoken to you or ever will speak to you, He is just looking for your obedience.  Ouch that is a hard word to swollow Obedience but that is what God requires of A broken spirit and a contrite heart and you will know when the time is right for you to submit your life to Him and live for Him and the Kingdom plan He has for your life, you will find it.  It says &quot;ask what you will in my name and it will be done for you so that my father in heaven will be glorified&quot;  God wants to be glorified in the earth and when we ask Him of his will and He fulfills it that Glorifies Him. Maybe just maybe you are asking the wrong questions.   It says somewhere else that it delights Him to give us the Kingdom, Maybe this is where your questions start.  What do you want Him to do for you?  Is it for the good of Gods kingdom?  If it is be sure He will show you. It also says in the OT to ask Him for the ancient paths,  I know it sounds a bit cliche but but God wants to redig the ancient wells and show  us the paths that our forefathers walked in , their revelation, their anointing, their experience of Gods power, the prophetic anointing, In corinthians it says above all seek that you may prophecie, The prophetic word releases Gods will in the earth and we are channels of that blessing that God wants to release.  I am not going to tell you to go to a church because I believe that He is well able to show himself to you and change your life outside of the church structure and all the other manmade ways to God but what I will say is follow His lead and wait on Him to reveal Himself to you remember it took God 3 times to get samuels attention.  Happy searching and  remember those that seek Him find Him and that those that seek the Lord lack no good thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really are looking for God you will find Him,  He is kind merciful, gracious and the God I know has changed my life. I also know that if you really do have questions that you want answers to He will answer those too.  If you genuinely do give your life to Him He will change it forever.  The night in India is interesting because the thing that God blesses is faith and maybe just maybe He is looking for that Faith in you to keep coming, Asking, seeking and knocking.  As for your reasons for seeking Him they will be the very thing that God uses to change and strengthen you.  In my experience God is the God who really answers by fire as He did with Elijah and He will not be mocked He will answer you and fulfill all the promises He has ever spoken to you or ever will speak to you, He is just looking for your obedience.  Ouch that is a hard word to swollow Obedience but that is what God requires of A broken spirit and a contrite heart and you will know when the time is right for you to submit your life to Him and live for Him and the Kingdom plan He has for your life, you will find it.  It says &#8220;ask what you will in my name and it will be done for you so that my father in heaven will be glorified&#8221;  God wants to be glorified in the earth and when we ask Him of his will and He fulfills it that Glorifies Him. Maybe just maybe you are asking the wrong questions.   It says somewhere else that it delights Him to give us the Kingdom, Maybe this is where your questions start.  What do you want Him to do for you?  Is it for the good of Gods kingdom?  If it is be sure He will show you. It also says in the OT to ask Him for the ancient paths,  I know it sounds a bit cliche but but God wants to redig the ancient wells and show  us the paths that our forefathers walked in , their revelation, their anointing, their experience of Gods power, the prophetic anointing, In corinthians it says above all seek that you may prophecie, The prophetic word releases Gods will in the earth and we are channels of that blessing that God wants to release.  I am not going to tell you to go to a church because I believe that He is well able to show himself to you and change your life outside of the church structure and all the other manmade ways to God but what I will say is follow His lead and wait on Him to reveal Himself to you remember it took God 3 times to get samuels attention.  Happy searching and  remember those that seek Him find Him and that those that seek the Lord lack no good thing</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you write down what you think your god should be like.  Choose your own conception of God.  Be willing to believe in your own God. Start there. That&#039;s how I began.  Not how I finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you write down what you think your god should be like.  Choose your own conception of God.  Be willing to believe in your own God. Start there. That&#8217;s how I began.  Not how I finished.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  There are some very interesting comments here.  It seems that you are in good company Simon.  I like what many have had to say.  My primary observation to date is how encouraging it must be that many in the community of faith certainly do respect and understand your search for truth.  This at least demonstrates that not all believers are from the same religious mold that so negatively affected your impressions early on.  I am excited to be a part of this dialogue and hope to learn from others while making the best contribution I can.  For the moment, I am particularly interested in Ralph&#039;s comment about the nature of the church in contrast to scripture as it relates to God&#039;s self-revelation.  I know this may be more specific than intended for this blog but am wondering if Ralph would be interested in dialoging via email about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  There are some very interesting comments here.  It seems that you are in good company Simon.  I like what many have had to say.  My primary observation to date is how encouraging it must be that many in the community of faith certainly do respect and understand your search for truth.  This at least demonstrates that not all believers are from the same religious mold that so negatively affected your impressions early on.  I am excited to be a part of this dialogue and hope to learn from others while making the best contribution I can.  For the moment, I am particularly interested in Ralph&#8217;s comment about the nature of the church in contrast to scripture as it relates to God&#8217;s self-revelation.  I know this may be more specific than intended for this blog but am wondering if Ralph would be interested in dialoging via email about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the invite.  I will definitely stick around.  Keep the questions coming.</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that Ralph. Stay tuned, I&#039;d like to hear you opinions on other things.</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,

I have faith that God will assist you along your journey.  That may sound strange, so be it.  But trust me, he is going to honor your search and reveal himself to you in many ways.

I was agnostic for a great part of my life.  That is, I believed that there was a God, and it was simply because I could see no other option when I pondered the creation of the universe.  Something from nothing never made any sense from me.  There had to be some kind of prime mover.  And therefore I believed that there was a God.  But I got no farther than that until I met a good woman and she showed me the way.

One way that you have discovered God already is in his creation.  Some call this the &quot;natural law&quot; - every created thing is a living example of God&#039;s truth.  The thing can be nothing but what it was created to be, and it is simply what it is - a creation.  I think I see that you have already realized this through what I have read on your blog.  Its a great place to start.

I&#039;m sorry that you had a negative experience in churches.  You&#039;ll find that many of them are scared of questions because they don&#039;t have the whole truth.  You might try approaching RCIA at a local Catholic church.  Its a special program that meets once a week and teaches people about the faith.  Its a period of discernment before you would decide to join the church.  If you decide to go through this, test out your hosts right away to see that they aren&#039;t afraid to answer questions.  If they are, try a program at another church.  Or even call to talk to a priest.  There&#039;s no harm in talking.

It might interest you that the Catholic Church was the main driver of nearly all scientific discovery for more than a thousand years, and that the scientific method was actually invented by scientists funded by the Catholic Church.  Coming from a background of science, I find this fascinating.  They are one of the few churches who realize what you have already begun to realize, and that is God&#039;s truth can and is found in all of his creation.

If you want, you can email me and we can talk.  BTW I wouldn&#039;t bother trying to understand the Old Testament right now.  Most people when they read it misunderstand God as an angry tyrant.  Rather the Bible is a theological work, and although it contains historical and scientific things, it is neither a history nor a science book.  Events that happen have a theological significance that may not be apparent and often are not a clear reflection of who God is. The New Testament is short and is easier to read; it might be a better place to start, but don&#039;t expect to be able to understand it all right away.

Also keep in mind that God did not hand man the Bible.  God inspired books of the Bible and we are able to read them, and they contain only truth, but whenever we read the Bible we add our own interpretation on top of it.  By interpreting the Bible in this way, we are not guaranteed that we believe the truth, because all we are believing is our interpretation of the truth.

Instead, God founded a Church (Matthew 16:17-20) and gave the whole truth to his followers and they were told to teach that truth to the whole world.  The Bible was never intended to be used in the way many Christian churches use it now, and this practice has led to confusion and many different interpretations.  In my personal opinion, explore them if you feel some urging to do so but you&#039;ll be wasting your time.  There is only one Church that God founded, a Church that has preserved the truth of the apostles since the time of Jesus, and that is the Catholic Church.

Another thing to understand is that the Church is a hospital for sinners, not a hotel for saints.  We are all sinners, and some people throughout history have done terrible things in the name of God.  It is undeniable.  God is there to help us know what is right and true but he still gives us free will and some do still abuse it.  That isn&#039;t a reflection on the Church he created, just on the depravity of man.

Another thing that you wrote that I need to comment on: God does not give his grace only to those who believe.  Every good thing about you and me is a grace given by God.  Without those graces, we would all be utterly depraved.  Everyone has been given different graces.  That is why some people murder, others do not, some people steal, others do not.  Those who do not; have grace.  I&#039;m getting a little theological here; I hope you don&#039;t mind.  But grace is not just for believers.  Jesus Christ died for all sinners, even those who did not believe.  If God did not offer all of us grace, we would never have the capability to believe in Him in the first place.

God Bless you, and if you seek him, he will reveal himself to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,</p>
<p>I have faith that God will assist you along your journey.  That may sound strange, so be it.  But trust me, he is going to honor your search and reveal himself to you in many ways.</p>
<p>I was agnostic for a great part of my life.  That is, I believed that there was a God, and it was simply because I could see no other option when I pondered the creation of the universe.  Something from nothing never made any sense from me.  There had to be some kind of prime mover.  And therefore I believed that there was a God.  But I got no farther than that until I met a good woman and she showed me the way.</p>
<p>One way that you have discovered God already is in his creation.  Some call this the &#8220;natural law&#8221; &#8211; every created thing is a living example of God&#8217;s truth.  The thing can be nothing but what it was created to be, and it is simply what it is &#8211; a creation.  I think I see that you have already realized this through what I have read on your blog.  Its a great place to start.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you had a negative experience in churches.  You&#8217;ll find that many of them are scared of questions because they don&#8217;t have the whole truth.  You might try approaching RCIA at a local Catholic church.  Its a special program that meets once a week and teaches people about the faith.  Its a period of discernment before you would decide to join the church.  If you decide to go through this, test out your hosts right away to see that they aren&#8217;t afraid to answer questions.  If they are, try a program at another church.  Or even call to talk to a priest.  There&#8217;s no harm in talking.</p>
<p>It might interest you that the Catholic Church was the main driver of nearly all scientific discovery for more than a thousand years, and that the scientific method was actually invented by scientists funded by the Catholic Church.  Coming from a background of science, I find this fascinating.  They are one of the few churches who realize what you have already begun to realize, and that is God&#8217;s truth can and is found in all of his creation.</p>
<p>If you want, you can email me and we can talk.  BTW I wouldn&#8217;t bother trying to understand the Old Testament right now.  Most people when they read it misunderstand God as an angry tyrant.  Rather the Bible is a theological work, and although it contains historical and scientific things, it is neither a history nor a science book.  Events that happen have a theological significance that may not be apparent and often are not a clear reflection of who God is. The New Testament is short and is easier to read; it might be a better place to start, but don&#8217;t expect to be able to understand it all right away.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind that God did not hand man the Bible.  God inspired books of the Bible and we are able to read them, and they contain only truth, but whenever we read the Bible we add our own interpretation on top of it.  By interpreting the Bible in this way, we are not guaranteed that we believe the truth, because all we are believing is our interpretation of the truth.</p>
<p>Instead, God founded a Church (Matthew 16:17-20) and gave the whole truth to his followers and they were told to teach that truth to the whole world.  The Bible was never intended to be used in the way many Christian churches use it now, and this practice has led to confusion and many different interpretations.  In my personal opinion, explore them if you feel some urging to do so but you&#8217;ll be wasting your time.  There is only one Church that God founded, a Church that has preserved the truth of the apostles since the time of Jesus, and that is the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>Another thing to understand is that the Church is a hospital for sinners, not a hotel for saints.  We are all sinners, and some people throughout history have done terrible things in the name of God.  It is undeniable.  God is there to help us know what is right and true but he still gives us free will and some do still abuse it.  That isn&#8217;t a reflection on the Church he created, just on the depravity of man.</p>
<p>Another thing that you wrote that I need to comment on: God does not give his grace only to those who believe.  Every good thing about you and me is a grace given by God.  Without those graces, we would all be utterly depraved.  Everyone has been given different graces.  That is why some people murder, others do not, some people steal, others do not.  Those who do not; have grace.  I&#8217;m getting a little theological here; I hope you don&#8217;t mind.  But grace is not just for believers.  Jesus Christ died for all sinners, even those who did not believe.  If God did not offer all of us grace, we would never have the capability to believe in Him in the first place.</p>
<p>God Bless you, and if you seek him, he will reveal himself to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon:

In the difficult passage you quoted, regarding Abram (his name hadn&#039;t been changed yet) and Pharaoh, God was not clueless at all.  In fact, God was quite &quot;proactive&quot; in keeping Pharaoh from innocently doing something that would have caused him a lot of problems, that is taking another man&#039;s wife. Consider it a &quot;warning shot across the bough&quot; for both Abram and Pharaoh. Pharaoh, probably deeply religious/superstitious himself, recognized that the plagues he encountered were of a supernatural nature and that caused Pharaoh to decide something is wrong with this woman Abram claimed to be his sister. It probably woke Abram up, too, to realize that his actions had consequences, and that next time he&#039;d better trust God and be truthful.

When reading the bible, be careful to remember that the books are broken into different genres: historical narrative, law, wisdom, poetry, prophecy, apocalyptic, gospel and epistle. When reading about &quot;abuse of women,&quot; as you put it, be sure to recall what genre the book is written in. Also remember, it was not originally written in English, it was written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, so you may need to find the meaning of the original words to find the correct meaning of a difficult passage.

A scripture in the New Testament says &quot;God spoke to the fathers by the prophets at different times and in different manners...but has now spoken to us through His Son (Hebrews 1).&quot; God doesn&#039;t thunder out of the heavens to speak to us; He speaks to us primarily through scripture. He also speaks to us through the Holy Spirit, which He gives us when we believe and are baptized.

I look forward with great anticipation to explaining anything else you need to know to show you that the Old Testament is not vile as it may appear to you now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon:</p>
<p>In the difficult passage you quoted, regarding Abram (his name hadn&#8217;t been changed yet) and Pharaoh, God was not clueless at all.  In fact, God was quite &#8220;proactive&#8221; in keeping Pharaoh from innocently doing something that would have caused him a lot of problems, that is taking another man&#8217;s wife. Consider it a &#8220;warning shot across the bough&#8221; for both Abram and Pharaoh. Pharaoh, probably deeply religious/superstitious himself, recognized that the plagues he encountered were of a supernatural nature and that caused Pharaoh to decide something is wrong with this woman Abram claimed to be his sister. It probably woke Abram up, too, to realize that his actions had consequences, and that next time he&#8217;d better trust God and be truthful.</p>
<p>When reading the bible, be careful to remember that the books are broken into different genres: historical narrative, law, wisdom, poetry, prophecy, apocalyptic, gospel and epistle. When reading about &#8220;abuse of women,&#8221; as you put it, be sure to recall what genre the book is written in. Also remember, it was not originally written in English, it was written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, so you may need to find the meaning of the original words to find the correct meaning of a difficult passage.</p>
<p>A scripture in the New Testament says &#8220;God spoke to the fathers by the prophets at different times and in different manners&#8230;but has now spoken to us through His Son (Hebrews 1).&#8221; God doesn&#8217;t thunder out of the heavens to speak to us; He speaks to us primarily through scripture. He also speaks to us through the Holy Spirit, which He gives us when we believe and are baptized.</p>
<p>I look forward with great anticipation to explaining anything else you need to know to show you that the Old Testament is not vile as it may appear to you now.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting response Rodney. I&#039;m lightly reading the old testament at the moment. It&#039;s a rather vile book if you ask me. God is not &quot;all knowing&quot; in (extremely) old testament, in fact a lot of the time he seems to be utterly clueless. For example when Abraham conned that King to take his &#039;sister&#039; as his wife God came down and told the King he was a dead man for sure! The King had to plead his innocence in that he had been told by Abraham that the woman was his sister. God heard that and spared the king as we know.

In fact the old testament seems vile in a great deal of ways. The rampant abuse of women, the incestuous sex, the hateful and vengeful God. It truly is a harrowing read, not God&#039;s best work of PR if you ask me. But that&#039;s stuff for a later post. I don&#039;t want to get into a protracted conversation about that right now. Suffice to say that the assumption that &quot;God is love&quot; seems to be a HUGE one if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting response Rodney. I&#8217;m lightly reading the old testament at the moment. It&#8217;s a rather vile book if you ask me. God is not &#8220;all knowing&#8221; in (extremely) old testament, in fact a lot of the time he seems to be utterly clueless. For example when Abraham conned that King to take his &#8217;sister&#8217; as his wife God came down and told the King he was a dead man for sure! The King had to plead his innocence in that he had been told by Abraham that the woman was his sister. God heard that and spared the king as we know.</p>
<p>In fact the old testament seems vile in a great deal of ways. The rampant abuse of women, the incestuous sex, the hateful and vengeful God. It truly is a harrowing read, not God&#8217;s best work of PR if you ask me. But that&#8217;s stuff for a later post. I don&#8217;t want to get into a protracted conversation about that right now. Suffice to say that the assumption that &#8220;God is love&#8221; seems to be a HUGE one if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://www.whothehellisgod.com/2009/starting-again/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon:

Thanks for your response to my question. I respect your answer.

If I may, allow me to explain what I have learned about God so far. Before I do that, let me say that my answers ARE based on the &quot;ancient texts&quot; that so many &quot;free thinkers&quot; seem to so despise, because I find the scriptures of the Holy Bible seem to best fit and answer life.  I believe that the purpose of life is simply to enjoy a relationship with God and to enjoy relationships with one another. I say that because Jesus was asked a question, &quot;which of the commandments is the greatest?&quot; Jesus didn&#039;t say &quot;thou shalt not kill&quot; is the greatest, or something like that, but He summed up the commandments by saying &quot;Love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself.&quot; Having love for God and love for one another dictates how we relate to one another, which again, is the simple purpose of life.

Genesis opens with the garden of Eden. The Hebrew word for garden is &quot;gan&quot; and means &quot;defense.&quot;  That implies protection. In the beginning, man was in the protection of God and was provided for by God. The devil, represented by the serpent, was also in the garden. He convinced man that mankind didn&#039;t need God to determine what is ethical, that man could make that determination himself. Man believed the devil, and as a result sinned against God (I&#039;m leaving out a LOT of details because I&#039;m trying to be succinct in this small space), separating us from Him. Sin is why we have death and corruption in the world today...it is a spiritual (unseen) &quot;condition&quot; that affects the spiritual and the natural. Sin cut us off from the source of life, which is God. It&#039;s like a branch that is cut off from a tree...it dies.

Fortunately, the PERSON of God, being loving as He is, restored us to relationship through Jesus Christ by paying the penalty of sin, which is death. When we believe in Him, and commit to live how He expects us to, He gives us His holy spirit to help change our corrupt human natures, so that we reconsider doing the things that cause our relationships to suffer.

I&#039;ll end this post by saying I see God like some product manufacturers. Some manufacturers put out a disclaimer with their product saying &quot;failure to use this product in a manner consistent with its intended use may result in injury or death.&quot; That&#039;s what God has done; He developed life and said that the best use for it is to love Him and each other, and failure to do so results in death. The choice is yours, therefore, you have to accept the consequences of your choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon:</p>
<p>Thanks for your response to my question. I respect your answer.</p>
<p>If I may, allow me to explain what I have learned about God so far. Before I do that, let me say that my answers ARE based on the &#8220;ancient texts&#8221; that so many &#8220;free thinkers&#8221; seem to so despise, because I find the scriptures of the Holy Bible seem to best fit and answer life.  I believe that the purpose of life is simply to enjoy a relationship with God and to enjoy relationships with one another. I say that because Jesus was asked a question, &#8220;which of the commandments is the greatest?&#8221; Jesus didn&#8217;t say &#8220;thou shalt not kill&#8221; is the greatest, or something like that, but He summed up the commandments by saying &#8220;Love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself.&#8221; Having love for God and love for one another dictates how we relate to one another, which again, is the simple purpose of life.</p>
<p>Genesis opens with the garden of Eden. The Hebrew word for garden is &#8220;gan&#8221; and means &#8220;defense.&#8221;  That implies protection. In the beginning, man was in the protection of God and was provided for by God. The devil, represented by the serpent, was also in the garden. He convinced man that mankind didn&#8217;t need God to determine what is ethical, that man could make that determination himself. Man believed the devil, and as a result sinned against God (I&#8217;m leaving out a LOT of details because I&#8217;m trying to be succinct in this small space), separating us from Him. Sin is why we have death and corruption in the world today&#8230;it is a spiritual (unseen) &#8220;condition&#8221; that affects the spiritual and the natural. Sin cut us off from the source of life, which is God. It&#8217;s like a branch that is cut off from a tree&#8230;it dies.</p>
<p>Fortunately, the PERSON of God, being loving as He is, restored us to relationship through Jesus Christ by paying the penalty of sin, which is death. When we believe in Him, and commit to live how He expects us to, He gives us His holy spirit to help change our corrupt human natures, so that we reconsider doing the things that cause our relationships to suffer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll end this post by saying I see God like some product manufacturers. Some manufacturers put out a disclaimer with their product saying &#8220;failure to use this product in a manner consistent with its intended use may result in injury or death.&#8221; That&#8217;s what God has done; He developed life and said that the best use for it is to love Him and each other, and failure to do so results in death. The choice is yours, therefore, you have to accept the consequences of your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great comments here. Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to comment.

Okay, I wasn&#039;t going to answer Rodney&#039;s question because I didn&#039;t want to get bogged down in where I&#039;ve been. I&#039;m more interested in the road ahead. But let me just say that my experience of Christian churches has obviously shaped my understanding of God. However, I struggle to believe that a God capable of creating photosynthesis, sealife, and clouds would then so dramatically limit his grace to those who happen to be fortunate enough to come across and accept Jesus Christ. It make little sense to me that a God so capable of diversity would create such a desperately narrow path to him for humankind to walk.

God to me, is a creative force, an infinitely limitless power. All religions that claim exclusive rights to God and the truth seem to be a contradiction of this is so many ways. At this stage I think God is a reality and religion is a choice.

Anne asks me what it might have been like if God had shown up that night in India. She is referring to a now deleted post I wrote back in April where I invited God to join me on the roof of a little house in southern India one night. I sat there and waited for 1 hour for God to show up. In the end it seemed that maybe he had another more pressing engagement.

So Anne, what would it have been like? Well heck, I don&#039;t know. Maybe though you&#039;re thinking that he did turn up and I just didn&#039;t see him because I wasn&#039;t looking for the right signs? Well maybe, but if God is going to be that subtle then I&#039;d have to ask him why his appearances in the old testament are such a big and obvious deal while today people are left searching the vagueness for &#039;signs&#039; that may, or may not be from him.

If God had shown up then I wouldn&#039;t be writing this blog now would I :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great comments here. Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to comment.</p>
<p>Okay, I wasn&#8217;t going to answer Rodney&#8217;s question because I didn&#8217;t want to get bogged down in where I&#8217;ve been. I&#8217;m more interested in the road ahead. But let me just say that my experience of Christian churches has obviously shaped my understanding of God. However, I struggle to believe that a God capable of creating photosynthesis, sealife, and clouds would then so dramatically limit his grace to those who happen to be fortunate enough to come across and accept Jesus Christ. It make little sense to me that a God so capable of diversity would create such a desperately narrow path to him for humankind to walk.</p>
<p>God to me, is a creative force, an infinitely limitless power. All religions that claim exclusive rights to God and the truth seem to be a contradiction of this is so many ways. At this stage I think God is a reality and religion is a choice.</p>
<p>Anne asks me what it might have been like if God had shown up that night in India. She is referring to a now deleted post I wrote back in April where I invited God to join me on the roof of a little house in southern India one night. I sat there and waited for 1 hour for God to show up. In the end it seemed that maybe he had another more pressing engagement.</p>
<p>So Anne, what would it have been like? Well heck, I don&#8217;t know. Maybe though you&#8217;re thinking that he did turn up and I just didn&#8217;t see him because I wasn&#8217;t looking for the right signs? Well maybe, but if God is going to be that subtle then I&#8217;d have to ask him why his appearances in the old testament are such a big and obvious deal while today people are left searching the vagueness for &#8217;signs&#8217; that may, or may not be from him.</p>
<p>If God had shown up then I wouldn&#8217;t be writing this blog now would I <img src='http://www.whothehellisgod.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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